Thursday, January 10, 2008

Let's do the time warp again


Ali asked:

Recently I have been experimenting with bending time and space.  Speeding it up, then slowing it down again.  If I am able to bend it at will, does it really exist?  Does NLP have a view James?

Hi Ali - congratulations on being the one to get the ball rolling!

How about I start by getting the pedantic, taking-language-far-too-literally crap out of the way first (you know, that stuff that really annoys non-NLPers), just to satisfy those people who get their kicks out of being persnickety about such things?

So just for those people:  NLP doesn't have a view on this, in the same way that NLP doesn't have fingers, teeth and a summer wardrobe.  NLP isn't a sentient being with opinions about things.  It's a field of study whose aim is the explicit replication of tacit expertise.

And now that we've got the stating-the-bleeding-obvious-while-misrepresenting-someone-else's-intentions out of the way (yes kids, you too can learn to be a great communicator - just as long as you never lose your grip on good old fashioned common sense), let's get down to brass tacks.

Of course you know that, and of course that's not what you meant.  It's funny, really - at different levels of development, NLPers pay attention to different things.  There are multiple presuppositions in every sentence, so which ones do we choose to zone in on as being the most important things to address?  So much depends on experience, and on the intentions of all involved parties ...

Anyway, I have both a short and a long answer to your question.  The short answer is that NLP involves the study of the structure of subjective experience - not of objective reality.  That's assuming there is such a creature as objective reality in the first place - and given the vast differences that can occur in people's experience of the same event, imagine how strange and alien it would be to only experience such an objective reality ... ?  Trippy.

Are you bending time, or are you bending your experience of time?

So the long answer is that your question reminds me of Terence McKenna.

Terence McKenna was one of the more famous and influential advocates for the use of natural psychedelics.  In particular, he was really into DMT.  DMT is the key chemical ingredient in ayahuasca (a sacred brew used in South American shamanic rituals).  It's found in many plants ... and it's also produced by your brain.

Now here are a couple of fun facts about the effects of DMT:

a) the perception of being in a completely different reality is experienced in an extremely real way, and ...

b) one of the common experiences people have is of being poked, prodded and examined by strange, alien humanoids

Let me remind you - DMT is produced by your brain.  So there are lots of interesting DMT theories.  One of my favourites is that when people report that they were abducted by aliens, it could be that they just had a spike in DMT production in their brain while they were dreaming.

Dr Rick Strassman (a leading DMT researcher) has suggested that people may experience alien encounters while under the effects of DMT because it affects those parts of the brain responsible for recognising human forms.

Now here's where this gets interesting.  Imagine that you took some DMT, went somewhere else and saw aliens.  And imagine that your subjective memory of that event is as real for you as the experience you're currently having, reading this.

So Terence McKenna (among others) took a different view of the DMT experience.  Given that the alien encounter thing is quite a common DMT experience, McKenna remained well and truly open to the possibility that DMT actually allows us to perceive (or travel to) other dimensions - populated with other beings - that actually exist.

In other words, when you experience alien encounters as real events while under the influence of DMT, a question may subsequently arise:  Is my mind tricking me, or is my mind freeing me?

When you experience yourself bending time, are you tricking your mind, or are you freeing your mind?

And if all you really have to go on is your own experience, and you're getting desirable results doing what you're doing ... what benefit do you imagine you will gain from answering that question?

More importantly, if you were to have an answer to that question, which answer would be the most useful one for you to have?

That's a question to answer with a congruency check, by the way - rather than conscious chatter.  After all, conscious minds don't know everything, right?  If they did, then inexperienced NLPers wouldn't zone in on trivial presuppositions and annoy the bejesus out of people.

They'd know that you probably didn't mean to imply that NLP is a sentient being with opinions and things.  That kind of picky over-examination of language rarely serves anyone.  There are other ways to make sense of things that don't involve putting someone's words under a microscope - poking, prodding and examining ...

Thanks again for getting the ball rolling, Ali - and somewhere in among these strange ramblings, I hope you find something of value, whether true or just subjectively real ...

4 comments:

AliCat said...

Ouch! but interesting reply.

James Tsakalos said...

Ouch?

Anonymous said...

I think i went into a trance reading the reply... then a memory popped into my mind of when i was training as a psychiatric nurse (many years ago). A 19 year old girl was admitted to the acute ward i was working on, she had radiant skin, sparkling eyes, beautiful shiny hair...and she was as nutty as a fruitcake.
But, in whose opinion?
She came on to the ward with a basket of fruit and offered the fruit to people as fruit of the vine. She also smeared faeces on her face and drank her urine.
She had been involved with a cult in America as far as i can remember.
I noticed that after around 2months or so on the ward she looked bloated, spotty and miserable, the spark had gone out of her eyes :-(
She obediently took the drugs she was offered and wandered aimlessly around the ward.
I left the ward after three months and never learned of her outcome. I do hope she managed to create the spark within her once again.

Judes said...

oh...interesting stuff. on a side note, when i was a little kid, i was sleeping and wanted to wake up but couldn't open my eyes for some reason...so i REALLY forced myself- and my eyes flew open! what did i see for a split second? a grey alien face with big black eyes. i was surprised then thought it was cool then fell asleep again. maybe my brain was making that stuff in my sleep! cool...

here's another side note - my sis has been trying to educate me on some quantum physics - like schroedinger's cat...something about always being in two (?) states until reality forces us to choose one (e.g. alive or dead). i just wanted to share the fact that there's a lot of interesting theories/research out there...

side note #3: took me several clicks to find this...and i only clicked because...well, i seem to click/surf quite well - this is cool! you gotta spread it more. :)

side note #4: i don't think these should be called sidenotes...oh well.

side note#5: figured i should contribute something useful...um, i've realised i've become afraid of using negative words/language (e.g. saying "don't worry")...because i feel like if i were to say that (even once), i've set up a bad influence within the other person. so, i guess i'd like to know how unreasonable my fear is?